MS know who butters their bread. Businesses get given the tools to control windows properly. Even without needing to resort to LTSC versions, domain joined with group policy, you can manage all the shitty parts of windows to make it behave as you wish - even down to control over when you receive the updates
Ours is. Last I heard, our Client Management team is already looking for different ways to disable it and make triple sure it stays off.
(inb4 “Switch to Linux”: several thousand users, specialised software and a technologically conservative company would already make that a non-starter)
I don’t disagree that it would be tough, but they had to start from nothing when choosing Windows originally. It all had to be learned and built up at some point. It can again, and hopefully on an open platform that won’t fuck them over in the future. (I know, there’s no chance, but there should be.)
Everyone always complains that whatever they want isn’t on Linux. Well, it wasn’t on Windows at some point either. Make a user-base for it on Linux or make it yourself. Someone did it in the past. It can be done again.
Inertia is a hell of a thing to try and overcome. It’s a big deal for most companies to change out an important piece of software, let alone an entire OS and everything that comes with it. It could happen one day, I just don’t expect to see it.
It’s because they want this. Microsoft Recall I am sure on a domain will be expanded upon to allow for auto capturing screenshots that can be parsed with AI to generate statistics of who is “working”. Without the legal issue of saying “we don’t install monitoring software”.
Microsoft will slap a license on that bad boy and businesses will eat it up to use against employees they want to terminate for cause anyway because they slipped up viewing a video from manager who sent them a cat video to watch that is less than 30 seconds long.
The other is how businesses will be crying when the feds just use it against them for finding fraud in business because they never bought the “enterprise” license that limits sharing and that doesn’t funnel everything to Microsoft anyway.
They already said it will be off by default for all Enterprise editions of windows. They’re protecting their corporate buddies but normal users get fucked, as always.
One step. The corps know it. It’s been happening for years. One step, then soon after you just accept that’s how it is. Then another step. And another. And another…
I actually really doubt it’d ever go on by default for enterprise installations. One tiny slipup in GPO and IT departments could end up with the most massive explicit data leak in history, many many companies and governments working with very sensitive data would drop all Microsoft products in a heartbeat. Microsoft knows that is an impossible sell and really not worth the squeeze vs just shoving a larger dildo up the private consumer’s ass.
I don’t understand how businesses that use windows for employee laptops are not throwing a fucking tantrum. I would be.
MS know who butters their bread. Businesses get given the tools to control windows properly. Even without needing to resort to LTSC versions, domain joined with group policy, you can manage all the shitty parts of windows to make it behave as you wish - even down to control over when you receive the updates
Ours is. Last I heard, our Client Management team is already looking for different ways to disable it and make triple sure it stays off.
(inb4 “Switch to Linux”: several thousand users, specialised software and a technologically conservative company would already make that a non-starter)
I don’t disagree that it would be tough, but they had to start from nothing when choosing Windows originally. It all had to be learned and built up at some point. It can again, and hopefully on an open platform that won’t fuck them over in the future. (I know, there’s no chance, but there should be.)
Everyone always complains that whatever they want isn’t on Linux. Well, it wasn’t on Windows at some point either. Make a user-base for it on Linux or make it yourself. Someone did it in the past. It can be done again.
Inertia is a hell of a thing to try and overcome. It’s a big deal for most companies to change out an important piece of software, let alone an entire OS and everything that comes with it. It could happen one day, I just don’t expect to see it.
Businesses will embrace this. The data will be tied to the m365 data governance agreement.
It’s because they want this. Microsoft Recall I am sure on a domain will be expanded upon to allow for auto capturing screenshots that can be parsed with AI to generate statistics of who is “working”. Without the legal issue of saying “we don’t install monitoring software”.
Microsoft will slap a license on that bad boy and businesses will eat it up to use against employees they want to terminate for cause anyway because they slipped up viewing a video from manager who sent them a cat video to watch that is less than 30 seconds long.
The other is how businesses will be crying when the feds just use it against them for finding fraud in business because they never bought the “enterprise” license that limits sharing and that doesn’t funnel everything to Microsoft anyway.
They already said it will be off by default for all Enterprise editions of windows. They’re protecting their corporate buddies but normal users get fucked, as always.
Not every business uses enterprise. I suspect quite a few use pro.
Then that will be Microsoft’s captive audience upsell. “Ohhh don’t want us collecting your secrets? Damn better pay up for enterprise licenses…”
I checked my work laptop running W11. Recall was installed and enabled. No copilot+. IT had no idea. Disabled it right away.
Off by default. For now…
One step. The corps know it. It’s been happening for years. One step, then soon after you just accept that’s how it is. Then another step. And another. And another…
I actually really doubt it’d ever go on by default for enterprise installations. One tiny slipup in GPO and IT departments could end up with the most massive explicit data leak in history, many many companies and governments working with very sensitive data would drop all Microsoft products in a heartbeat. Microsoft knows that is an impossible sell and really not worth the squeeze vs just shoving a larger dildo up the private consumer’s ass.
They just turn it off with group policy or intune.
can’t wait for the first “whoops, it accidentally got turned on beccause of a bug” news headline
This.
We did get pissed off, then turned on a GPO to block it
Even easier. It’s off by default in enterprise and education SKUs.